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https://jalopnik.com/vladimir-putin-likes-electric-cars-but-claims-they-are-1819152966
Vladimir Putin Likes Electric Cars But Claims They Are Dirtier Than Gas Cars
10/04/17 David Tracy

[image] AP/Mikhail Klimentyev

Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump’s Best Friend Except Not Really, is apparently
an expert on Well-To-Wheel analyses. At the Russian Energy Week conference
in Moscow today, he gave a nice long-winded explanation on why electric
cars—which he actually likes—are dirtier than gas cars.

Russian Energy Week, a forum put on in Moscow and St. Petersberg to discuss
“prospects for the development of such core sectors of the economy as the
oil, gas, coal, and petrochemical industries” hosted Vladimir Putin today at
the country’s capital. Among topics Russia’s leader got to discuss was
electric cars, which Putin says he likes despite them being worse for the
environment than gas vehicles (RT interpreted this as meaning “natural gas”
vehicles).

When asked by the host if Putin could ever imagine himself buying an EV,
Putin said (note: this quote has been translated from Russian):

    Yes I certainly can imagine that...I had an opportunity to drive an
electric car... Russian manufacturers who are dreaming to produce electric
cars showed me....I was given a chance to sit behind the wheel, and I must
admit that I do like such cars, particularly modern cars, which are very
fast, very spritely, and for the city environment, that constitutes a very
good type of transportation, because, well, you have a lot of people
living... You need to avoid the exhaust.

Then the leader of a country whose number one export is crude petroleum went
on, saying: “But, I believe, in the end of the day, right now, a much more
environmentally friendly kind of a fuel and transportation is gas driven
cars.”

When the interviewer asked “Could we imagine you one day driving one of Elon
Musk’s Teslas?” Putin, who seemed to be referring to Russia in general and
not himself personally, responded:

    Why not? We are open to such products and we are buying everything that
we see useful, and we sell everything that we find beneficial to sell...What
do you think are we going to just drive a horse-driven cart? No, we are no
longer doing that. Or just tanks? No no, not at all...

Prior to these questions, Putin went into a lengthy explanation about why
EVs are much worse for the environment than gas cars. He said—because coal
is the primary source of energy throughout the world, and because “the
technology of using both coal and oil are improving”—gas cars are better for
the environment than electric ones. Have a listen:

While he admits the benefits of EVs from a urban health standpoint, and that
renewable energy is something to strive towards, he doesn’t think renewable
sources will be dominant for another 30 years, and the energy mix will
remain the same in the near term. Because of that, Putin says, “The kind of
fuel as the gas motor fuel, we believe, at the end of the day, to be much
more environmentally safe than the electric automobile.”

The EPA says natural gas is “one of the cleanest burning alternative fuels,”
and that cars powered by such a fuel produce 20 to 45 percent fewer smog
pollutants and 5 percent to 9 percent fewer greenhouse gas emissions, so
Putin may have a point, even if he’s got quite a lot of incentive to keep
gas-powered cars on the road.
[© 2017 Gizmodo Media]
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https://www.inverse.com/article/37129-vladimir-putin-tesla-electric
Vladimir Putin Reveals His Problem With Electric Cars Like Tesla
Oct 5, 2017  President Donald Trump may not have yet weighed in on how he
feels about Elon Musk's electric cars, but the Tesla chief can count at
least one powerful head ...



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http://www.afr.com/business/transport/automobile/vladimir-putin-says-hed-drive-a-tesla-but-natural-gas-cars-are-greener-20171004-gyujnn
Vladimir Putin says he'd drive a Tesla (but natural gas cars are greener)
Oct 5 2017 - Putin says he likes the "light, fast and efficient" electric
cars that he's been shown - but coal generates their electricity ... said he
can see himself behind the wheel of one of Elon Musk's Tesla electric cars
as the world shifts toward greener forms of transport, though he thinks
vehicles that run on [Russian cng] gas would be better for saving the planet
...
...
https://www.inverse.com/article/37129-vladimir-putin-tesla-electric
Vladimir Putin Reveals his Problem with Electric Cars like Tesla
20171004 ... motor fuel such as natural gas, in our view, is ultimately much
more environmentally friendly than electric cars,” he said ... not exactly
surprising a head of state would speak in his national interest, and Russia
is second only to the United States in global natural gas production ...
...
Trump pitches US natural gas to European leaders - CNBC.com
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/06/trump-natural-gas-europe-leaders.html
Jul 6, 2017 - Russia has cut supplies to Europe in the past, prompting
European ... Piped gas sells at a large discount to LNG, which must be
cooled to liquid ...
...
Why Russian Natural Gas Will Dominate European Markets
https://www.brookings.edu/.../why-russian-natural-gas-will-dominate-european-marke...
Feb 24, 2014 - Russia's Gazprom announced that in 2013 its share of European
natural ... Ambassadors and politicians do not buy and sell natural gas, ...
...
Russia Skips Hybrids in Push for Natural Gas Cars - The New York ...
www.nytimes.com/2013/04/.../russia-skips-hybrids-in-push-for-natural-gas-cars.html
Apr 11, 2013 - Russia, the world's second-largest producer of natural gas,
is making ... Four factory-equipped natural gas and dual-fuel cars are for
sale in the ...
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-PM-ru-Shuvalov-tried-LeEco-cn-Electric-car-Ruskies-get-100M-inve-tment-cn-tp4682811.html
EVLN: PM.ru Shuvalov tried LeEco.cn Electric car> Ruskies get $100M
inve$tment.cn
Russia First Prime Minister Tries Its electric Car after Putin Welcomes
LeEco to Enter Its Market
Jul 03, 2016
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Prez-ru-pushes-electric-car-development-in-Russia-tp4680055.html
EVLN: Prez.ru pushes electric car development in Russia
Jan 25, 2016




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