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https://thedriven.io/2019/08/07/why-are-new-electric-vehicle-range-estimates-often-so-different/
Why are new electric vehicle range estimates often so different?
August 7, 2019  

[images  
https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/model-3-range.jpg
Range estimate for the Tesla Model 3 in Australia

https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/nedc-to-wltp-800x712.png

https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/what-is-wltp-800x436.png
]

Range estimates for electric vehicles (EVs) – and for that matter, vehicles
in general – are often the source of contention.

However, despite appearances, these estimates are not plucked from thin air.
The generally quoted figures are normally derived through one of three
international testing standards. These are:

    NEDC (New European Driving Cycle),
    WLTP (Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure) and
    US EPA (Unites States Environmental Protection Agency).

These three test cycles vary as to what proportions of city/country driving
are included, as well as the defined climatic conditions. Naturally, the
European test cycle tends to favour inner city and suburban driving, whilst
the US one tends to include more outer suburban and highway driving trips.

By the way, the reason two European standards are bandied about is that WLTP
is progressively replacing NEDC for new vehicles as they come onto the
European market from September 2017, and all new vehicles in Europe must
display WLTP figures from September 2019.

NEDC to WLTP
Source: https://wltpfacts.eu

As background: WLTP is notorious for producing figures around 30% above
‘achievable’ distances – particularly so towards the end of its reign.

This was partly to do with the WLTP test cycle becoming ‘too’ settled, as
well as rather theoretical. Together, these two factors led to auto
manufacturers became quite adept at gaming the system to produce cars
optimised to the tests. (And don’t forget VW’s outright cheating of the test
cycles – termed ‘Dieselgate’).

As a result of the perceived failings of NEDC, the WLTP test cycle was
introduced for European use late in late 2017 to provide more ‘real-world’
estimates for European driving conditions and usage.
what is wltp
Source: https://wltpfacts.eu

Here in Australia, we effectively use NEDC figures – and hence the rather
optimistic EV ranges found on the Australian Green Vehicle Guide website
(https://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au/).

This is quite annoying, but a result of the Fuel Consumption labelling
requirements under Australian Design Rule 81/02 — Fuel Consumption Labelling
for Light Vehicles) 2008 being written before the introduction of WLTP.
Consequently, our standards are closely related to NEDC.

This means NEDC is effectively the current Australian test cycle applying to
showroom labels and the Green Vehicle Guide website. (Note: many auto
manufacturers here in Australia are quoting WLTP figures in their
advertising material for their EVs).

As mentioned above – NEDC is notoriously around 30% greater than what the
‘average’ driver achieves. So how can one find out what a realistic EV
driving range is?

This is where the Environmental Protection Agency in the USA comes in. On
the other side of the Atlantic from Europe, the US EPA has long set its own
and very different set of vehicle consumption testing standards.

Widely regarded as more stringent and realistic – US EV drivers regularly
report that they can easily achieve (and even sometimes exceed) the US EPA
range figures. As US driving patterns are more akin to Australian ones –
they are also more likely to be achievable here in Australia.

Therefore – when researching the range of a new EV to buy – I would suggest
trying the following strategies for ensuring your chosen vehicle is likely
to meet your driving needs:

    Check which test cycle the range estimate was made under. (If NEDC,
subtract 30% for starters!);

    For the WLTP range estimate, check the manufacturers advertising
material – often they quote WLTP instead of NEDC, or go to a European
website for the vehicle. (Remember when checking overseas websites to check
the options, wheel sizes etc as these can differ to Australian delivered
cars). By the way: whilst WLTP is closer to ‘real-world’ consumption, WLTP
ratings are still up to around 10% too high for Australian conditions;

    If the vehicle is offered for sale in the US (which covers almost all
EVs except Renault who do not sell vehicles in the US) – check the US EPA
rating for an even closer range estimate.

It is worth remembering that any of these test standards are still good for
comparison between vehicles. What you must do is to check you are comparing
‘apples with apples’, i.e. when making comparisons, always ensure you are
using the same test cycle (NEDC, WLTP or US EPA).

Ultimately though, fuel/energy consumption is a very individual thing.
Getting a rating that reflects your individual usage is a bonus – but
checking the rating system that your chosen EV is tested under certainly
helps avoid disappointment.
[© thedriven.io]


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Re: EVLN: Why EV range estimates differ> NEDC.eu, WLTP, EPA.us

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Something to keep in mind when reading the article: there are several
places in this article where the WLTP and NEDC acronyms have been mixed
up/swapped.  This reverses the meaning of what I believe was intended. Some of
the swaps have been pointed out on the website comments, and have been
changed in the web-posted article. Others may still uncorrected.


On Aug 12, 2019 08:25, "brucedp5 via EV" <[hidden email]> wrote:



https://thedriven.io/2019/08/07/why-are-new-electric-vehicle-range-estimates-often-so-different/
Why are new electric vehicle range estimates often so different?
August 7, 2019

[images
https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/model-3-range.jpg
Range estimate for the Tesla Model 3 in Australia

https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/nedc-to-wltp-800x712.png

https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/what-is-wltp-800x436.png
]

Range estimates for electric vehicles (EVs) – and for that matter, vehicles
in general – are often the source of contention.

However, despite appearances, these estimates are not plucked from thin air.
The generally quoted figures are normally derived through one of three
international testing standards. These are:

    NEDC (New European Driving Cycle),
    WLTP (Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure) and
    US EPA (Unites States Environmental Protection Agency).

These three test cycles vary as to what proportions of city/country driving
are included, as well as the defined climatic conditions. Naturally, the
European test cycle tends to favour inner city and suburban driving, whilst
the US one tends to include more outer suburban and highway driving trips.

By the way, the reason two European standards are bandied about is that WLTP
is progressively replacing NEDC for new vehicles as they come onto the
European market from September 2017, and all new vehicles in Europe must
display WLTP figures from September 2019.

NEDC to WLTP
Source: https://wltpfacts.eu

As background: WLTP is notorious for producing figures around 30% above
‘achievable’ distances – particularly so towards the end of its reign.

This was partly to do with the WLTP test cycle becoming ‘too’ settled, as
well as rather theoretical. Together, these two factors led to auto
manufacturers became quite adept at gaming the system to produce cars
optimised to the tests. (And don’t forget VW’s outright cheating of the test
cycles – termed ‘Dieselgate’).

As a result of the perceived failings of NEDC, the WLTP test cycle was
introduced for European use late in late 2017 to provide more ‘real-world’
estimates for European driving conditions and usage.
what is wltp
Source: https://wltpfacts.eu

Here in Australia, we effectively use NEDC figures – and hence the rather
optimistic EV ranges found on the Australian Green Vehicle Guide website
(https://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au/).

This is quite annoying, but a result of the Fuel Consumption labelling
requirements under Australian Design Rule 81/02 — Fuel Consumption Labelling
for Light Vehicles) 2008 being written before the introduction of WLTP.
Consequently, our standards are closely related to NEDC.

This means NEDC is effectively the current Australian test cycle applying to
showroom labels and the Green Vehicle Guide website. (Note: many auto
manufacturers here in Australia are quoting WLTP figures in their
advertising material for their EVs).

As mentioned above – NEDC is notoriously around 30% greater than what the
‘average’ driver achieves. So how can one find out what a realistic EV
driving range is?

This is where the Environmental Protection Agency in the USA comes in. On
the other side of the Atlantic from Europe, the US EPA has long set its own
and very different set of vehicle consumption testing standards.

Widely regarded as more stringent and realistic – US EV drivers regularly
report that they can easily achieve (and even sometimes exceed) the US EPA
range figures. As US driving patterns are more akin to Australian ones –
they are also more likely to be achievable here in Australia.

Therefore – when researching the range of a new EV to buy – I would suggest
trying the following strategies for ensuring your chosen vehicle is likely
to meet your driving needs:

    Check which test cycle the range estimate was made under. (If NEDC,
subtract 30% for starters!);

    For the WLTP range estimate, check the manufacturers advertising
material – often they quote WLTP instead of NEDC, or go to a European
website for the vehicle. (Remember when checking overseas websites to check
the options, wheel sizes etc as these can differ to Australian delivered
cars). By the way: whilst WLTP is closer to ‘real-world’ consumption, WLTP
ratings are still up to around 10% too high for Australian conditions;

    If the vehicle is offered for sale in the US (which covers almost all
EVs except Renault who do not sell vehicles in the US) – check the US EPA
rating for an even closer range estimate.

It is worth remembering that any of these test standards are still good for
comparison between vehicles. What you must do is to check you are comparing
‘apples with apples’, i.e. when making comparisons, always ensure you are
using the same test cycle (NEDC, WLTP or US EPA).

Ultimately though, fuel/energy consumption is a very individual thing.
Getting a rating that reflects your individual usage is a bonus – but
checking the rating system that your chosen EV is tested under certainly
helps avoid disappointment.
[© thedriven.io]


+
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/08/07/electric-car-owners-and-rv-park-owners-heres-how-to-prepare-to-serve-people-doing-ev-road-trips/#79978dd3ef4f
Electric Car Owners and RV Park Owners: Here's How To Prepare To Serve
People Doing EV Road Trips
This article outlines ways that RV parks could gain revenue from the growing
group of people taking electric vehicle road ...
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fbradtempleton%2Ffiles%2F2019%2F08%2Fnorwaypark-1200x801.jpg




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 http://evdl.org/archive/


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