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https://www.dailydemocrat.com/2019/11/07/352000-for-two-electric-trucks-shocks-woodland-city-council/
$352,000 for two electric trucks shocks Woodland City Council
But once the grants and rebates kick in, Woodland is getting a deal
November 7, 2019  Jim Smith

[image  
https://www.dailydemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ELECTRICTRUCKS.jpg
The price tag of two electrict trucks for the city initally shocked Woodland
Councilman Rich Lansburgh. COURTESY
]

Going green made at least one Woodland City Councilman see red for a brief
time this week.

The problem was the $352,058 cost for two all-electric trucks to be used by
the Public Works Department, an expense ultimately approved unanimously by
the five-member council under its consent calendar.

But although there was minimal discussion, there was also a brief moment
when Councilman Rich Lansburgh expressed more than a little concern about
the cost.

That was until he found out about all the rebates and other features, which
made the actual cost less, far less.

According to a report prepared by Troy Thompson, the city’s fleet and
facilities manager, the two trucks are E450s with the Phoenix All-Electrical
Next Generation Drive System. Not your standard F-150s.

After they have been bought from Team Ford in Woodland, the trucks will be
refitted with utility boxes to make them more useful to the city by a
company called Phoenix Motorcars.

The council approved $248,000 on July 16, to buy the vehicles, which
increased with a number of non-standard features. Initially, the city will
pay for the full cost of the electric vehicles but then it will be
reimbursed $200,000 for both trucks by the Sacramento Metropolitan Air
Quality Management District after they are delivered.

The city also qualifies for a $160,000 incentive through the Hybrid and
Zero-Emission Truck and Bus Voucher Incentive Project, and this incentive
has already been discounted in the overall $352,058 purchasing price.

Further, city staff estimates an overall cost savings due to a “significant
reduction in fuel and maintenance expenses over the lifespan of the EV
trucks,” which could be as much as 10 years.

Finally, the city is also getting for free the infrastructure needed to
recharge the vehicles, including a transformer and power station. Regardless
of whether the two vehicles being used work out or not, the city will be
able to keep the infrastructure to use with future electric vehicles.

When it’s all added up, city officials estimate they will be saving about
$65,000 in fuel costs and other factors on each vehicle in addition to
reducing the city’s overall carbon footprint.

However, like any new automotive technology, the actual costs are still
somewhat of a guessing game when it comes to durability, length of service
and horsepower and even maintenance, although Phoenix Motorcars — which is
retrofitting the vehicles — is including a maintenance package consisting of
a diagnostics laptop, preventative maintenance, safety training, and phone
technical support.

And the trucks can’t be repaired locally. The nearest repair facility is
Creative Bus Sales in Sacramento, although the dealership has agreed to a
response time that will typically be within 24 hours during normal business
hours.

Lansburgh said once he understood the rebates and other cost savings he
changed his mind.

And City Manager Paul Navazio noted that the grants are being provided in
order to “drive down” the cost of the vehicles so that eventually they will
be more in line with traditional gas-powered trucks.

Of the vehicles themselves, they’re described as each having a 158-inch
wheelbase, a 105kw battery pack capable of up to 110 miles on a single
charge at a maximum speed of 58 mph, going from 0-50 in 14 seconds. They can
carry 14,500 pounds. The trucks will be painted white, have chrome bumpers
and grills, two bucket seats, electric air-conditioner, and heaters, LED
display for a back-up camera, fire extinguisher, first aid kit and other
features which are usually standard with any truck.
[© dailydemocrat.com]
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http://www.cleancitiessacramento.org/uploads/2/7/8/6/27862343/phoenix_presentation_-v8_updated_again_020617.pdf


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Shell installs first EV chargers in US at Boston airport – and they’re
Australian
November 6, 2019  Installed by Shell member and EV charging provider
Greenlots, the occasion was noted by Shell electric mobility manager Steve
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> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:37 PM, brucedp5 via EV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.dailydemocrat.com/2019/11/07/352000-for-two-electric-trucks-shocks-woodland-city-council/
> $352,000 for two electric trucks shocks Woodland City Council
> But once the grants and rebates kick in, Woodland is getting a deal
> November 7, 2019  Jim Smith
>
> [image  
> https://www.dailydemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ELECTRICTRUCKS.jpg
> The price tag of two electrict trucks for the city initally shocked Woodland
> Councilman Rich Lansburgh. COURTESY
> ]
>
> Going green made at least one Woodland City Councilman see red for a brief
> time this week.
>
> The problem was the $352,058 cost for two all-electric trucks to be used by
> the Public Works Department, an expense ultimately approved unanimously by
> the five-member council under its consent calendar.
>
> But although there was minimal discussion, there was also a brief moment
> when Councilman Rich Lansburgh expressed more than a little concern about
> the cost.
>
> That was until he found out about all the rebates and other features, which
> made the actual cost less, far less.
>
> According to a report prepared by Troy Thompson, the city’s fleet and
> facilities manager, the two trucks are E450s with the Phoenix All-Electrical
> Next Generation Drive System. Not your standard F-150s.
>
> After they have been bought from Team Ford in Woodland, the trucks will be
> refitted with utility boxes to make them more useful to the city by a
> company called Phoenix Motorcars.
>
> The council approved $248,000 on July 16, to buy the vehicles, which
> increased with a number of non-standard features. Initially, the city will
> pay for the full cost of the electric vehicles but then it will be
> reimbursed $200,000 for both trucks by the Sacramento Metropolitan Air
> Quality Management District after they are delivered.
>
> The city also qualifies for a $160,000 incentive through the Hybrid and
> Zero-Emission Truck and Bus Voucher Incentive Project, and this incentive
> has already been discounted in the overall $352,058 purchasing price.
>
> Further, city staff estimates an overall cost savings due to a “significant
> reduction in fuel and maintenance expenses over the lifespan of the EV
> trucks,” which could be as much as 10 years.
>
> Finally, the city is also getting for free the infrastructure needed to
> recharge the vehicles, including a transformer and power station. Regardless
> of whether the two vehicles being used work out or not, the city will be
> able to keep the infrastructure to use with future electric vehicles.
>
> When it’s all added up, city officials estimate they will be saving about
> $65,000 in fuel costs and other factors on each vehicle in addition to
> reducing the city’s overall carbon footprint.
>
> However, like any new automotive technology, the actual costs are still
> somewhat of a guessing game when it comes to durability, length of service
> and horsepower and even maintenance, although Phoenix Motorcars — which is
> retrofitting the vehicles — is including a maintenance package consisting of
> a diagnostics laptop, preventative maintenance, safety training, and phone
> technical support.
>
> And the trucks can’t be repaired locally. The nearest repair facility is
> Creative Bus Sales in Sacramento, although the dealership has agreed to a
> response time that will typically be within 24 hours during normal business
> hours.
>
> Lansburgh said once he understood the rebates and other cost savings he
> changed his mind.
>
> And City Manager Paul Navazio noted that the grants are being provided in
> order to “drive down” the cost of the vehicles so that eventually they will
> be more in line with traditional gas-powered trucks.
>
> Of the vehicles themselves, they’re described as each having a 158-inch
> wheelbase, a 105kw battery pack capable of up to 110 miles on a single
> charge at a maximum speed of 58 mph, going from 0-50 in 14 seconds. They can
> carry 14,500 pounds. The trucks will be painted white, have chrome bumpers
> and grills, two bucket seats, electric air-conditioner, and heaters, LED
> display for a back-up camera, fire extinguisher, first aid kit and other
> features which are usually standard with any truck.
> [© dailydemocrat.com]
> ...
> http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/products/#1505308787607-7f8c2c3b-0cf2
> ...
> http://www.cleancitiessacramento.org/uploads/2/7/8/6/27862343/phoenix_presentation_-v8_updated_again_020617.pdf
>
>
> + (Shell-oil installng EVSE.us from OZ)
> https://thedriven.io/2019/11/06/shell-installs-first-ev-charger-in-us-at-boston-airport-and-theyre-australian/
> Shell installs first EV chargers in US at Boston airport – and they’re
> Australian
> November 6, 2019  Installed by Shell member and EV charging provider
> Greenlots, the occasion was noted by Shell electric mobility manager Steve
> Bean on networking site Linked ...
> https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/shell-recharge-boston-airport.jpg
>
>
>
>
> For EVLN EV-newswire posts use:
> http://www.evdl.org/archive/
>
>
> {brucedp.neocities.org}
>
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