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Forgive me for posting this but there does seem to be a major break
through here.
The video is convincing and the diagram of how they overcame the bump
point is interesting.
Of course it could be a scam but this seems more open than most. In fact
the creators seem to not realize how big a deal this is.

Think of it as an electrical magnetic motor without the electricity
during the run phase (still takes a lot of electricity to form the
magnets to begin with)

-----Original Message-----
Subject: working  All-Magnet Motor with video on youtube
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 6:26:51 -0500


  Directory:OC MPMM Magnet Motor


       From PESWiki

The "OC MPMM" all-magnetic motor built by Alsetalokin (Nikola Telsa
backwards).
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:OC_MPMM_magnet_motor_pointing_300.jpg>
The "OC MPMM" all-magnetic motor built by Alsetalokin (Nikola Telsa
backwards).

Another All-Magnet Motor


Back in July of 2007, Steorn
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Steorn_Free_Energy> embarrassed
themselves by hosting a world-viewing demo of what was supposed to be a
free energy device that defies the laws of physics. Unfortunately, their
demo was botched. [1] <http://pesn.com/2007/07/05/9500478_Orbo_Demo/>
(/http://pesn.com/2007/07/05/9500478_Orbo_Demo//) Meanwhile, a couple of
Steorn forum
<http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1>
(/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1/)
members, alsetalokin and overconfident, have been kicking around ideas
for how to build an all-magnet motor with no other motive force.
"Overconfident" came up with the idea, and "alsetalokin" built a
prototype, then shot a *video
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Videos>*
showing acceleration of the device. Ironically, he doesn't seem to
realize what he's accomplished. That video was posted publicly at
YouTube on Jan. 4, 2008.

After the operator gives it a kick start, and gets the secondary
counter-rotating magnet in sync, the motor accelerates to 1700 rpm,
while the secondary magnet spins at 4200 rpm. When the operator manually
stalls two of the three secondary magnets, the assembly accelerates
further (secondary goes to around 5,000 rpm, as measured by an optical
tachometer). This would seem to imply that once the device is rotating,
continued rotation of multiple secondaries may actually interfere with
its operation.

    "It spins, we don't know why." -- Alsetalokin (Jan. 6, 2008) [2]
   
<http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=10#Item_43>
(/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=10#Item_43/)


    "This is not a final product; it's only a bit odd 'anomaly' observed
    when trying different designs during construction." -- Yirkha
    <http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha>
(/http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha/),
    who posted the video
   
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Videos>,
    Jan. 4, 2008. .

*Table of contents* [showhide <javascript:toggleToc()>]
1 About
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#About>

1.1 Official Website
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Official_Website>

1.1.1 Open Source
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Open_Source>

1.2 Latest Developments
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Latest_Developments>

1.2.1 Jan. 4, 2008
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Jan._4.2C_2008>
1.2.2 Oct. 4 2007
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Oct._4_2007>

1.3 Videos
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Videos>
1.4 Photos
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Photos>
1.5 How it Works
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#How_it_Works>
1.6 Theory
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Theory>
1.7 Instructions
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Instructions>

1.7.1 Parts
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Parts>

1.8 Profiles
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Profiles>

1.8.1 Company: not yet
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Company:_not_yet>
1.8.2 Inventor: "overconfident"
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Inventor:_.22overconfident.22>
1.8.3 Replicator: "Alsetalokin"
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Replicator:_.22Alsetalokin.22>

2 Coverage
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Coverage>

2.1 In the News
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#In_the_News>
2.2 Other Coverage
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Other_Coverage>
2.3 Comments
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Comments>

2.3.1 Acceleration is a Breakthrough
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Acceleration_is_a_Breakthrough>
2.3.2 Very Significant
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Very_Significant>
2.3.3 Need to Rule out Saturation
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Need_to_Rule_out_Saturation>
2.3.4 Cool Head is Good
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Cool_Head_is_Good>
2.3.5 More
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#More>

3 Contact
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Contact>
4 See also
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#See_also>

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=1>]


  About

This is a new page!
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:Classypen.PNG>

    /This is a new technology-related article needing expansion. You can
    help PESWiki by expanding it and are invited to help us add to its
    contents./    /After logging in
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Special:Userlogin>,
    click the "edit" link above. Further information might be found in a
    section of the talk page
    <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor>.
    Please remove this message once the page has become more mature and
    adequately developed./ [edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=2>]


    Official Website

None, they are utilizing the public forum at Steorn.com for their
brainstorming, research and development; and they don't seem to
appreciate others jumping in and asking questions now that this new
video has been posted. Be prepared to have your head bitten off, even
for saying nice things.

We invite you to dredge through the Steorn forum's many comments and
post here as much information as can be gleaned, for possible
replication of the device.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=3>]


      Open Source

/On Jan. 5, 2008, the inventor, "overconfident" wrote
<http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=12#Item_22>
(/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=12#Item_22/):/ 
In a nutshell:
1) Go for it!
2) Make it public
3) Share information
4) Search the threads for information before interrupting our efforts
here

I'll try to answer any technical questions to the best of my ability,
but in general I just prefer to keep distractions to a minimum. Please
encourage people to read through the threads first before asking
questions. Most of what I know and at leat a significant portion of what
Al knows is already posted there. If you wanted to put together a more
understandable document, there is already a good start from riterX on my
ning page.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=4>]


    Latest Developments

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=5>]


      Jan. 4, 2008

    * Video
      <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI>
(/http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI/)
      posted to YouTube

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=6>]


      Oct. 4 2007

    * Steorn forum user "overconfident" posts his theory about a PMM
      configuration to the Steorn forum
     
<http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1>
(/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1/).


[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=7>]


    Videos


(2:59 minutes)

    * *The OC MPMM - Alsetalokin's Video* - "This is a repost of the
      original Alsetalokin's video showing how his implementation of
      overconfident's idea looks like so far. See
      http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments....
      <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687>
(/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687/)
      for more info. The original video has been marked for private
      viewing only by the author, but he permitted reposting it by
      others." (Posted by Yirkha
      <http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha>
(/http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha/);
      /YouTube
      <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI>
(/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI/)/;
      Jan. 4, 2008)
    * We made a copy of this video. Let us know if the above video is
      removed, or if it is made private, and we'll post it anew. --
      SilverThunder <http://peswiki.com/index.php/User:SilverThunder>
      03:29, 5 Jan 2008 (EST)
    * Brighter Version
      <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9UKcGTcfwo>
(/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9UKcGTcfwo/)
      - "a brighter version of the Alsetalokin OC MPMM video, for all
      the people asking for a brighter version." (/YouTube/; Jan. 5,
2008)

- - - -


(2:59 minutes)

    * *OC's MPMM test jig #1* - A test jig for overconfident's magnetic
      perpetual motion machine. Not intended to actually "run". Just
      showing various magnet interactions and the basic layout.

Keep watching for further developments. (Posted by alsetal0kin
<http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=alsetal0kin>
(/http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=alsetal0kin/); /YouTube
<http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0QEj4BgiE>
(/http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0QEj4BgiE/)/; Dec. 7, 2007)

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=8>]


    Photos

Image:OC MPMM magnet motor close-up 600.jpg
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:OC_MPMM_magnet_motor_close-up_600.jpg>

See also http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=9>]


    How it Works

Appears to take a novel approach to solving classic 'sticky point'
issue. Uses several driven (via magnetic coupling from primary rotor)
rotating external magnets ("secondaries"), which may or may not be under
control of inbuilt mechanisms allowing them to latch at two points 180'
apart in their rotation.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=10>]


    Theory

Image:OC MPMM diagram bf16.gif
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:OC_MPMM_diagram_bf16.gif>

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=11>]


    Instructions

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=12>]


      Parts

    * OC motor parts
     
<http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf>
(/http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf/)
      - PDF of parts list [3]
     
<http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166>
(/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166/)


Magnets are from http://kjmagnetics.com [4]
<http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg68060.html#msg68060>
(/http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg68060.html#msg68060/)
Part Number: R834DIA
1 Pack of 10
Unit Price: $17.10
Product Total: $17.10

Part Number: B448
1 Pack of 10
Unit Price: $8.20
Product Total: $8.20

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=13>]


    Profiles

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=14>]


      Company: not yet

just tinkering?

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=15>]


      Inventor: "overconfident"

Steorn forum user.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=16>]


      Replicator: "Alsetalokin"

Steorn forum member "Alsetalokin" is 'Nicola Tesla' written backwards,
obviously a pseudonym. Appears to reside in Canada; contact info not
publicly available.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=17>]


  Coverage

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=18>]


    In the News

not yet

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=19>]


    Other Coverage

    * Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
      <http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.0/topicseen.html>
(/http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.0/topicseen.html/)
      (/OverUnity.com/; Thread commenced January 04, 2008)
    * OC MPMM Documentation
     
<http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166>
(/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166/)
      - discussion between designer and a very skillful engineer for
      proof of concept
          o photos
            <http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo>
(/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo/)
            of the results.
          o PDF
           
<http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf>
(/http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf/)
            - parts list
          o Videos
            <http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video>
(/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video/)

                + OC's MPMM 3Ax8 Demo #1
                 
<http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video/video/show?id=1638621%3AVideo%3A2526>
(/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video/video/show?id=1638621%3AVideo%3A2526/)
                  - includes same video as was posted to YouTube on Jan.
                  4, 2008.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=20>]


    Comments

See Discussion Page
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor>

Some sample comments here:

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=21>]


      Acceleration is a Breakthrough

/On Jan. 5, 2008, New Energy Congress
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/New_Energy_Congress> member, Sterling D.
Allan <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Member:Sterling_D._Allan>
wrote:/

Achieving acceleration from just magnets interacting, as appears to be
the case here, is truly remarkable. It certainly isn't ready for market;
not close; but it is proof of concept that magnets can provide motive
force. That is groundbreaking.

The next thing will be to show that no degaussing is taking place. For
this to be a valuable effect, not just interesting science, you need to
show that the acceleration is not at the expense of magnets loosing
their strength through some new scientific discovery.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=22>]


      Very Significant

/On Jan. 5, 2008, New Energy Congress
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/New_Energy_Congress> advisor, Jim Dunn
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:James_Dunn> wrote:/

This is very significant.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=23>]


      Need to Rule out Saturation

/On Jan. 5, 2008, User:Legendre
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/User:Legendre> wrote:/

Incidentally, it's not only important to analyze the magnetic elements
for possible degaussing, but also for possible saturation or
supersaturation.

Unconfirmed: Something apparently causes the device to stop every few
hours, though it may be immediately restarted. If so, the mechanism
behind this odd behavior must be understood. I would tend to guess that
the magnets are becoming saturated, and require a bit of relaxation time
before the mechanism can again operate.

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=24>]


      Cool Head is Good

/On Jan. 5, 2008, RunningBare wrote
<http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3871.msg68159#msg68159>
(/http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3871.msg68159#msg68159/):/ I
for one hope they both keep their feet on the ground and continue to
research and experiment before they start shouting OU or similar. But I
gotta admit, I'm very excited about this!

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=25>]


      More

See Discussion Page
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor>

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=26>]


  Contact

list here

[edit
<http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=27>]


  See also

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Re: Fw: working All-Magnet Motor with video on youtube

Peter VanDerWal
First of all, the fact that is shows up on youtube pretty much means it's
a joke/scam/con.

Secondly, if you feel you need to appologize for posting it, THEN DON'T
POST IT!!!!

> Forgive me for posting this but there does seem to be a major break
> through here.
> The video is convincing and the diagram of how they overcame the bump
> point is interesting.
> Of course it could be a scam but this seems more open than most. In fact
> the creators seem to not realize how big a deal this is.
>
> Think of it as an electrical magnetic motor without the electricity
> during the run phase (still takes a lot of electricity to form the
> magnets to begin with)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: working  All-Magnet Motor with video on youtube
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 6:26:51 -0500
>
>
>   Directory:OC MPMM Magnet Motor
>
>
>        From PESWiki
>
> The "OC MPMM" all-magnetic motor built by Alsetalokin (Nikola Telsa
> backwards).
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:OC_MPMM_magnet_motor_pointing_300.jpg>
> The "OC MPMM" all-magnetic motor built by Alsetalokin (Nikola Telsa
> backwards).
>
> Another All-Magnet Motor
>
>
> Back in July of 2007, Steorn
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Steorn_Free_Energy> embarrassed
> themselves by hosting a world-viewing demo of what was supposed to be a
> free energy device that defies the laws of physics. Unfortunately, their
> demo was botched. [1] <http://pesn.com/2007/07/05/9500478_Orbo_Demo/>
> (/http://pesn.com/2007/07/05/9500478_Orbo_Demo//) Meanwhile, a couple of
> Steorn forum
> <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1>
> (/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1/)
> members, alsetalokin and overconfident, have been kicking around ideas
> for how to build an all-magnet motor with no other motive force.
> "Overconfident" came up with the idea, and "alsetalokin" built a
> prototype, then shot a *video
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Videos>*
> showing acceleration of the device. Ironically, he doesn't seem to
> realize what he's accomplished. That video was posted publicly at
> YouTube on Jan. 4, 2008.
>
> After the operator gives it a kick start, and gets the secondary
> counter-rotating magnet in sync, the motor accelerates to 1700 rpm,
> while the secondary magnet spins at 4200 rpm. When the operator manually
> stalls two of the three secondary magnets, the assembly accelerates
> further (secondary goes to around 5,000 rpm, as measured by an optical
> tachometer). This would seem to imply that once the device is rotating,
> continued rotation of multiple secondaries may actually interfere with
> its operation.
>
>     "It spins, we don't know why." -- Alsetalokin (Jan. 6, 2008) [2]
>
> <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=10#Item_43>
> (/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=10#Item_43/)
>
>
>     "This is not a final product; it's only a bit odd 'anomaly' observed
>     when trying different designs during construction." -- Yirkha
>     <http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha>
> (/http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha/),
>     who posted the video
>
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Videos>,
>     Jan. 4, 2008. .
>
> *Table of contents* [showhide <javascript:toggleToc()>]
> 1 About
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#About>
>
> 1.1 Official Website
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Official_Website>
>
> 1.1.1 Open Source
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Open_Source>
>
> 1.2 Latest Developments
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Latest_Developments>
>
> 1.2.1 Jan. 4, 2008
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Jan._4.2C_2008>
> 1.2.2 Oct. 4 2007
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Oct._4_2007>
>
> 1.3 Videos
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Videos>
> 1.4 Photos
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Photos>
> 1.5 How it Works
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#How_it_Works>
> 1.6 Theory
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Theory>
> 1.7 Instructions
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Instructions>
>
> 1.7.1 Parts
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Parts>
>
> 1.8 Profiles
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Profiles>
>
> 1.8.1 Company: not yet
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Company:_not_yet>
> 1.8.2 Inventor: "overconfident"
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Inventor:_.22overconfident.22>
> 1.8.3 Replicator: "Alsetalokin"
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Replicator:_.22Alsetalokin.22>
>
> 2 Coverage
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Coverage>
>
> 2.1 In the News
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#In_the_News>
> 2.2 Other Coverage
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Other_Coverage>
> 2.3 Comments
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Comments>
>
> 2.3.1 Acceleration is a Breakthrough
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Acceleration_is_a_Breakthrough>
> 2.3.2 Very Significant
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Very_Significant>
> 2.3.3 Need to Rule out Saturation
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Need_to_Rule_out_Saturation>
> 2.3.4 Cool Head is Good
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Cool_Head_is_Good>
> 2.3.5 More
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#More>
>
> 3 Contact
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#Contact>
> 4 See also
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor#See_also>
>
> [edit
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>
>
>   About
>
> This is a new page!
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:Classypen.PNG>
>
>     /This is a new technology-related article needing expansion. You can
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>     adequately developed./ [edit
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>
>
>     Official Website
>
> None, they are utilizing the public forum at Steorn.com for their
> brainstorming, research and development; and they don't seem to
> appreciate others jumping in and asking questions now that this new
> video has been posted. Be prepared to have your head bitten off, even
> for saying nice things.
>
> We invite you to dredge through the Steorn forum's many comments and
> post here as much information as can be gleaned, for possible
> replication of the device.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=3>]
>
>
>       Open Source
>
> /On Jan. 5, 2008, the inventor, "overconfident" wrote
> <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=12#Item_22>
> (/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=12#Item_22/):/
> In a nutshell:
> 1) Go for it!
> 2) Make it public
> 3) Share information
> 4) Search the threads for information before interrupting our efforts
> here
>
> I'll try to answer any technical questions to the best of my ability,
> but in general I just prefer to keep distractions to a minimum. Please
> encourage people to read through the threads first before asking
> questions. Most of what I know and at leat a significant portion of what
> Al knows is already posted there. If you wanted to put together a more
> understandable document, there is already a good start from riterX on my
> ning page.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=4>]
>
>
>     Latest Developments
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=5>]
>
>
>       Jan. 4, 2008
>
>     * Video
>       <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI>
> (/http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI/)
>       posted to YouTube
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=6>]
>
>
>       Oct. 4 2007
>
>     * Steorn forum user "overconfident" posts his theory about a PMM
>       configuration to the Steorn forum
>
> <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1>
> (/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=1/).
>
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=7>]
>
>
>     Videos
>
>
> (2:59 minutes)
>
>     * *The OC MPMM - Alsetalokin's Video* - "This is a repost of the
>       original Alsetalokin's video showing how his implementation of
>       overconfident's idea looks like so far. See
>       http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments....
>       <http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687>
> (/http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687/)
>       for more info. The original video has been marked for private
>       viewing only by the author, but he permitted reposting it by
>       others." (Posted by Yirkha
>       <http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha>
> (/http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=Yirkha/);
>       /YouTube
>       <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI>
> (/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvZJ9xGutI/)/;
>       Jan. 4, 2008)
>     * We made a copy of this video. Let us know if the above video is
>       removed, or if it is made private, and we'll post it anew. --
>       SilverThunder <http://peswiki.com/index.php/User:SilverThunder>
>       03:29, 5 Jan 2008 (EST)
>     * Brighter Version
>       <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9UKcGTcfwo>
> (/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9UKcGTcfwo/)
>       - "a brighter version of the Alsetalokin OC MPMM video, for all
>       the people asking for a brighter version." (/YouTube/; Jan. 5,
> 2008)
>
> - - - -
>
>
> (2:59 minutes)
>
>     * *OC's MPMM test jig #1* - A test jig for overconfident's magnetic
>       perpetual motion machine. Not intended to actually "run". Just
>       showing various magnet interactions and the basic layout.
>
> Keep watching for further developments. (Posted by alsetal0kin
> <http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=alsetal0kin>
> (/http://uk.youtube.com/profile?user=alsetal0kin/); /YouTube
> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0QEj4BgiE>
> (/http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0QEj4BgiE/)/; Dec. 7, 2007)
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=8>]
>
>
>     Photos
>
> Image:OC MPMM magnet motor close-up 600.jpg
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:OC_MPMM_magnet_motor_close-up_600.jpg>
>
> See also http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=9>]
>
>
>     How it Works
>
> Appears to take a novel approach to solving classic 'sticky point'
> issue. Uses several driven (via magnetic coupling from primary rotor)
> rotating external magnets ("secondaries"), which may or may not be under
> control of inbuilt mechanisms allowing them to latch at two points 180'
> apart in their rotation.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=10>]
>
>
>     Theory
>
> Image:OC MPMM diagram bf16.gif
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:OC_MPMM_diagram_bf16.gif>
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=11>]
>
>
>     Instructions
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=12>]
>
>
>       Parts
>
>     * OC motor parts
>
> <http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf>
> (/http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf/)
>       - PDF of parts list [3]
>
> <http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166>
> (/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166/)
>
>
> Magnets are from http://kjmagnetics.com [4]
> <http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg68060.html#msg68060>
> (/http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg68060.html#msg68060/)
> Part Number: R834DIA
> 1 Pack of 10
> Unit Price: $17.10
> Product Total: $17.10
>
> Part Number: B448
> 1 Pack of 10
> Unit Price: $8.20
> Product Total: $8.20
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=13>]
>
>
>     Profiles
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=14>]
>
>
>       Company: not yet
>
> just tinkering?
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=15>]
>
>
>       Inventor: "overconfident"
>
> Steorn forum user.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=16>]
>
>
>       Replicator: "Alsetalokin"
>
> Steorn forum member "Alsetalokin" is 'Nicola Tesla' written backwards,
> obviously a pseudonym. Appears to reside in Canada; contact info not
> publicly available.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=17>]
>
>
>   Coverage
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=18>]
>
>
>     In the News
>
> not yet
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=19>]
>
>
>     Other Coverage
>
>     * Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
>       <http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.0/topicseen.html>
> (/http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.0/topicseen.html/)
>       (/OverUnity.com/; Thread commenced January 04, 2008)
>     * OC MPMM Documentation
>
> <http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166>
> (/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1638621%3ABlogPost%3A2166/)
>       - discussion between designer and a very skillful engineer for
>       proof of concept
>           o photos
>             <http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo>
> (/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo/)
>             of the results.
>           o PDF
>
> <http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf>
> (/http://api.ning.com/files/7vd*I4uYJz0a8SWp*rIv4OT6MWD8EAqTvCmrBNYq1Kg_/OCmotor.pdf/)
>             - parts list
>           o Videos
>             <http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video>
> (/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video/)
>
>                 + OC's MPMM 3Ax8 Demo #1
>
> <http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video/video/show?id=1638621%3AVideo%3A2526>
> (/http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/video/video/show?id=1638621%3AVideo%3A2526/)
>                   - includes same video as was posted to YouTube on Jan.
>                   4, 2008.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=20>]
>
>
>     Comments
>
> See Discussion Page
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor>
>
> Some sample comments here:
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=21>]
>
>
>       Acceleration is a Breakthrough
>
> /On Jan. 5, 2008, New Energy Congress
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/New_Energy_Congress> member, Sterling D.
> Allan <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Member:Sterling_D._Allan>
> wrote:/
>
> Achieving acceleration from just magnets interacting, as appears to be
> the case here, is truly remarkable. It certainly isn't ready for market;
> not close; but it is proof of concept that magnets can provide motive
> force. That is groundbreaking.
>
> The next thing will be to show that no degaussing is taking place. For
> this to be a valuable effect, not just interesting science, you need to
> show that the acceleration is not at the expense of magnets loosing
> their strength through some new scientific discovery.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=22>]
>
>
>       Very Significant
>
> /On Jan. 5, 2008, New Energy Congress
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/New_Energy_Congress> advisor, Jim Dunn
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:James_Dunn> wrote:/
>
> This is very significant.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=23>]
>
>
>       Need to Rule out Saturation
>
> /On Jan. 5, 2008, User:Legendre
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/User:Legendre> wrote:/
>
> Incidentally, it's not only important to analyze the magnetic elements
> for possible degaussing, but also for possible saturation or
> supersaturation.
>
> Unconfirmed: Something apparently causes the device to stop every few
> hours, though it may be immediately restarted. If so, the mechanism
> behind this odd behavior must be understood. I would tend to guess that
> the magnets are becoming saturated, and require a bit of relaxation time
> before the mechanism can again operate.
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=24>]
>
>
>       Cool Head is Good
>
> /On Jan. 5, 2008, RunningBare wrote
> <http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3871.msg68159#msg68159>
> (/http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3871.msg68159#msg68159/):/ I
> for one hope they both keep their feet on the ground and continue to
> research and experiment before they start shouting OU or similar. But I
> gotta admit, I'm very excited about this!
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=25>]
>
>
>       More
>
> See Discussion Page
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor>
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=26>]
>
>
>   Contact
>
> list here
>
> [edit
> <http://peswiki.com/index.php?title=Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor&action=edit&section=27>]
>
>
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>
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