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> Hi Folks,
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> I put a kit together from www.openevse.com tonight and it actually works!  I did the parts kit version for $269 and then ordered the J1772 plug/cord for $149 but for about the same price you can get one that’s assembled/tested so that would probably be the best way to go.  (The last photo 4350 is the car display concurring charging.)
>  
> It will charge to full level 6.6KW (27.5A) and has a great display, amps & kWh, hard to find for a reasonable price of $479 Model 50S-40A Assembled/tested: https://store.openevse.com/collections/frontpage/products/40a-charging-station-powered-by-openevse
>  
> If you’re looking for a charge controller with a kWh and amps display, they’re hard to find – GE’s was $2200 for example.  There’s a bunch on Amazon.com etc without a display in the $400-600 range but all they are is a controlled relay that sends a 1kHz handshake signal to the EV to set up the charge current/watts.  The charge controller tells the EV to go to its max of 6600W or whatever – or to a reduced rate if requested by the controller based on wiring supply.  Anyway I was surprised how well it works and the display (which I consider required) shows exactly how much the EV is using – if something’s out of whack you’ll know it quickly, not charging/low or too high kWh/amps.
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Re: Fwd: EV diy Charge Controller - with Display!

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Its shipping priority mail today

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>
>  
> Hi Folks,
>  
> I put a kit together from www.openevse.com tonight and it actually
> works!  I did the parts kit version for $269 and then ordered the
> J1772 plug/cord for $149 but for about the same price you can get one
> that’s assembled/tested so that would probably be the best way to go.  
> (The last photo 4350 is the car display concurring charging.)
>  
> It will charge to full level 6.6KW (27.5A) and has a great display,
> amps & kWh, hard to find for a reasonable price of $479 Model 50S-40A
> Assembled/tested:
> https://store.openevse.com/collections/frontpage/products/40a-charging
> -station-powered-by-openevse
>  
> If you’re looking for a charge controller with a kWh and amps display, they’re hard to find – GE’s was $2200 for example.  There’s a bunch on Amazon.com etc without a display in the $400-600 range but all they are is a controlled relay that sends a 1kHz handshake signal to the EV to set up the charge current/watts.  The charge controller tells the EV to go to its max of 6600W or whatever – or to a reduced rate if requested by the controller based on wiring supply.  Anyway I was surprised how well it works and the display (which I consider required) shows exactly how much the EV is using – if something’s out of whack you’ll know it quickly, not charging/low or too high kWh/amps.
>  
>  
> Have a renewable energy Christmas
>  
> Mark
>  
> Mark E. Hanson
> 184 Vista Lane
> Fincastle, VA 24090
> 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell
> REEVA: community service RE & EV project club
> Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) UL Certified PV
> Installer My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh
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Re: Fwd: EV diy Charge Controller - with Display!

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These units are not UL approved and cannot be installed in any bay area where the code requires it. There have been a couple of fires caused by the charging station which will not be covered by insurance
since no building permit was obtained. Be warned.
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Do you also get a building permit when you buy a new toaster oven?
There is no such thing as a building permit or even a required UL
certificate for an appliance.
So, if you simply plug the EVSE into an outlet (not hardwire it) then
you are fine building it yourself and using it, if you don't agree then
please show the law that requires it.

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These units are not UL approved and cannot be installed in any bay area
where
the code requires it. There have been a couple of fires caused by the
charging station which will not be covered by insurance
since no building permit was obtained. Be warned.

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Re: Fwd: EV diy Charge Controller - with Display!

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Prove your assertion that these units have caused fires.
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You are correct about the no permit required if not hard wired; however, after a fire, I would not argue with the local inspection because the codes give him a lot of freedom.  I know.  Been there done that.

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Do you also get a building permit when you buy a new toaster oven?
There is no such thing as a building permit or even a required UL
certificate for an appliance.
So, if you simply plug the EVSE into an outlet (not hardwire it) then
you are fine building it yourself and using it, if you don't agree then
please show the law that requires it.

Regards,

Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless

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These units are not UL approved and cannot be installed in any bay area
where
the code requires it. There have been a couple of fires caused by the
charging station which will not be covered by insurance
since no building permit was obtained. Be warned.

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No code requirements (was: EV diy Charge Controller - with Display!)

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I have to agree with Cor. The building code, electrical code, and fire
code only regulates the building, but not beyond the plug in the wall.
If it isn't permanently attached and part of the structure, then the
building codes have no say, and neither does the insurance company.

Do you have to get a permit to plug in your newly purchased TV or vacuum
cleaner? Of course not. Portable cord connected appliances are not
regulated by building codes. Adding a receptacle is different. That
requires a building permit.

However, if you permanently wire in an appliance, (or a changing
station) and don't use a plug to make the connection, that is a horse of
a different color. That _does_ require a building permit. That would be
regulated under the electrical code, because it is part of the building.

Also, insurance companies very often will _try_ to argue that something
is not covered. They like to collect premiums, but would prefer not to
pay claims. Often, especially with large claims, you must get the
lawyers involved to force the insurance company to cover what the policy
says it covers. The very nature of insurance companies.

If it has a plug that you can take in and out, then it isn't regulated
by the building code (like your EV has a plug and isn't regulated by the
building code) If it is _permanently_ wired in, then it _is_ regulated
by the building code.

Bottom line -> use a plug to connect your charger.

Bill D.


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> These units are not UL approved and cannot be installed in any bay area where
> the code requires it. There have been a couple of fires caused by the
> charging station which will not be covered by insurance
> since no building permit was obtained. Be warned.
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I can see that you have not worked with the local building departments concerning electrical.
I would suggest you do before making that statement which seems to be all too often.