Oil is not a fuel either. Is is simply a long term carrier of very old
solar energy stored in oraginic life.
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 7:53 pm, Simon Turner wrote:
> --- MIKE WILLMON <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hydrogen is not a fuel. It IS an energy carrier,
>> or storage medium much as a battery or capacitor..
>> If the electrons from the storage medium power an
>> electric motor, then technically it IS an EV.
>> Maybe we could rename our group the BEVDL, or
>> Battery Electric Vehicle Discussion List and limit
>> our arguments to what batteries get the best
>> performance, or how to maintain them better. It
>> seems you are now the one with the closed mind, and
>> blindly following the mantra of if its not batteries
>> its not electric, yada yada yada. I'm not one to
>> favour the hydrogen hype because it is such an
>> inefficient form of energy storage. However to stay
>> technically correct, but not argue for that side, I
>> would say the Fuel Cell powered vehicle are EV's if
>> they power electric motors.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dan Frederiksen <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 11:39 am
>> Subject: Re: Electric car vies for speed record (500
>> To: [hidden email]
>> > Dewey, Jody R ATC COMNAVAIRLANT, N422G5G wrote:
>> > > Why do you say it is NOT an electric vehicle? I
>> don't see a gas
>> > engine> of any type on there. A fuel cell
>> generates ELECTRICITY
>> > and the primary
>> > > drive mechanism is an ELECTRIC Motor. Just
>> because the fuel is
>> > hydrogen> doesn't mean it is not electric. They
>> are just making it
>> > aboard instead
>> > > of charging it externally.
>> > >
>> > The hydrogen fuel voids its status as electric in
>> my book. I would
>> > say
>> > that a strict EV must be powered by an electrical
>> storage such as
>> > battery or capacitor. if you allow generators such
>> as fuel cells
>> > you
>> > also allow types like the prius which is a gas car
>> with an electric
>> > clutch. this is a fuel cell car. hydrogen-electric
>> if you will.
>> > like
>> > diesel-electric trains.
>> > another way to define an EV might be to require
>> refueling by an
>> > electrical connection. again this one would fail
>> > when we are debating victory criteria with ICE
>> people then
>> > everything is
>> > an electric car of course : ) but this is a
>> hydrogen car. not an EV.
>> > I would be surprised if the record people will
>> allow it as a pure
>> > EV.
>> > not that batteries couldn't beat it anyway
>> > Dan
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