WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR, VW? 250mpg, proven

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WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR, VW? 250mpg, proven

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They always have an excuse...

"Unveiled at this week’s Qatar Motor Show, the prototype uses a variety of techniques to reduce weight and minimize wind resistance, while turning to a plug-in diesel-hybrid powertrain to squeeze out every last bit of energy.

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Among the various steps taken to improve aerodynamics are a closed front end, extensive underbody covers, closed wheels and pin-sized cameras that replace conventional sideview mirrors.  The VW XL1 yields a drag coefficient of just 0.19, compared to 0.25 for the relatively slick Toyota Prius.

There’s less than 400 pounds of steel or iron on the XL1.  The chassis is a monocoque made of Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastic, or CFRP, a material normally found on extremely low-volume supercars, such as the Lamborghini Sesto.  That and other lightweight materials, such as aluminum and magnesium, and the ceramics of the prototypes brakes, and VW has been able to hold the mass of the XL1 down to just 1,749 pounds.

XL1's interior uses sideview monitors to replace conventional outside mirrors.

About the size of the maker’s European small car, the Polo, the XL1 concept measures barely 13 feet, bumper-to-bumper, and just five feet wide.  Significantly, it allows the passengers to sit side-by-side, rather than the tandem arrangement of an earlier VW high-mileage concept, the 2009 L1, that nudged the 200 mpg mark.

Notably, while it has a subcompact sedan’s overall footprint, the XL1 adopts a sports car height, about 3.5 feet, or more like a Lamborghini Gallardo, to further cheat the wind.

The Volkswagen XL1’s plug-in hybrid driveline combines a motorcycle-sized 800 cc TDI engine, which makes 47 horsepower, with a 27 hp electric motor.  The package directs all 74 ponies to the rear wheels through 7-speed DSG transmission.  In battery mode, the XL1’s lithium-ion pack will deliver 22 miles.

While the numbers might not suggest much performance, the XL1 can hit 60 in under 12 seconds – about 2.4 seconds faster than the earlier L1 – and top out at 99 mph.

At 250 mpg, the typical American would need just 60 gallons of diesel a year to drive the typical 15,000 miles — even less if the VW XL1 were driven on electric along during the day’s commute.

While there are no plans to put XL1 into production, VW is nonetheless intent on utilizing some of its weight and fuel-saving breakthroughs.  The maker claims it has come up with ways to sharply reduce the cost of producing CFRP, which could help the material migrate from the supercar segment into more mainstream markets."
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Re: WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR, VW? 250mpg, proven

Kirill Spitzer
'While there are no plans to put XL1 into production,[...]'

Regarding German newssites, the XL1 is planned to be released for 2013.


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> Datum: Thu, 5 May 2011 22:05:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Von: hi-tech <[hidden email]>
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> They always have an excuse...
>
> "Unveiled at this week’s Qatar Motor Show, the prototype uses a variety
> of
> techniques to reduce weight and minimize wind resistance, while turning to
> a
> plug-in diesel-hybrid powertrain to squeeze out every last bit of energy.
>
> Your All-Season News Source!
>
> Among the various steps taken to improve aerodynamics are a closed front
> end, extensive underbody covers, closed wheels and pin-sized cameras that
> replace conventional sideview mirrors.  The VW XL1 yields a drag
> coefficient
> of just 0.19, compared to 0.25 for the relatively slick Toyota Prius.
>
> There’s less than 400 pounds of steel or iron on the XL1.  The chassis
> is a
> monocoque made of Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastic, or CFRP, a material
> normally found on extremely low-volume supercars, such as the Lamborghini
> Sesto.  That and other lightweight materials, such as aluminum and
> magnesium, and the ceramics of the prototypes brakes, and VW has been able
> to hold the mass of the XL1 down to just 1,749 pounds.
>
> XL1's interior uses sideview monitors to replace conventional outside
> mirrors.
>
> About the size of the maker’s European small car, the Polo, the XL1
> concept
> measures barely 13 feet, bumper-to-bumper, and just five feet wide.
> Significantly, it allows the passengers to sit side-by-side, rather than
> the
> tandem arrangement of an earlier VW high-mileage concept, the 2009 L1,
> that
> nudged the 200 mpg mark.
>
> Notably, while it has a subcompact sedan’s overall footprint, the XL1
> adopts
> a sports car height, about 3.5 feet, or more like a Lamborghini Gallardo,
> to
> further cheat the wind.
>
> The Volkswagen XL1’s plug-in hybrid driveline combines a
> motorcycle-sized
> 800 cc TDI engine, which makes 47 horsepower, with a 27 hp electric motor.
> The package directs all 74 ponies to the rear wheels through 7-speed DSG
> transmission.  In battery mode, the XL1’s lithium-ion pack will deliver
> 22
> miles.
>
> While the numbers might not suggest much performance, the XL1 can hit 60
> in
> under 12 seconds – about 2.4 seconds faster than the earlier L1 – and
> top
> out at 99 mph.
>
> At 250 mpg, the typical American would need just 60 gallons of diesel a
> year
> to drive the typical 15,000 miles — even less if the VW XL1 were driven
> on
> electric along during the day’s commute.
>
> While there are no plans to put XL1 into production, VW is nonetheless
> intent on utilizing some of its weight and fuel-saving breakthroughs.  The
> maker claims it has come up with ways to sharply reduce the cost of
> producing CFRP, which could help the material migrate from the supercar
> segment into more mainstream markets."
>
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Re: WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR, VW? 250mpg, proven

NeilBlanchard
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Hello Tony,

Can you post a link for where you got this, please?

> They always have an excuse...
>
> "Unveiled at this week’s Qatar Motor Show, the prototype uses a variety of
> techniques to reduce weight and minimize wind resistance, while turning to a
> plug-in diesel-hybrid powertrain to squeeze out every last bit of energy.
>
> Your All-Season News Source!
>
> Among the various steps taken to improve aerodynamics are a closed front
> end, extensive underbody covers, closed wheels and pin-sized cameras that
> replace conventional sideview mirrors.  The VW XL1 yields a drag coefficient
> of just 0.19, compared to 0.25 for the relatively slick Toyota Prius.
>
> There’s less than 400 pounds of steel or iron on the XL1.  The chassis is a
> monocoque made of Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastic, or CFRP, a material
> normally found on extremely low-volume supercars, such as the Lamborghini
> Sesto.  That and other lightweight materials, such as aluminum and
> magnesium, and the ceramics of the prototypes brakes, and VW has been able
> to hold the mass of the XL1 down to just 1,749 pounds.
>
> XL1's interior uses sideview monitors to replace conventional outside
> mirrors.
>
> About the size of the maker’s European small car, the Polo, the XL1 concept
> measures barely 13 feet, bumper-to-bumper, and just five feet wide.
> Significantly, it allows the passengers to sit side-by-side, rather than the
> tandem arrangement of an earlier VW high-mileage concept, the 2009 L1, that
> nudged the 200 mpg mark.
>
> Notably, while it has a subcompact sedan’s overall footprint, the XL1 adopts
> a sports car height, about 3.5 feet, or more like a Lamborghini Gallardo, to
> further cheat the wind.
>
> The Volkswagen XL1’s plug-in hybrid driveline combines a motorcycle-sized
> 800 cc TDI engine, which makes 47 horsepower, with a 27 hp electric motor.
> The package directs all 74 ponies to the rear wheels through 7-speed DSG
> transmission.  In battery mode, the XL1’s lithium-ion pack will deliver 22
> miles.
>
> While the numbers might not suggest much performance, the XL1 can hit 60 in
> under 12 seconds – about 2.4 seconds faster than the earlier L1 – and top
> out at 99 mph.
>
> At 250 mpg, the typical American would need just 60 gallons of diesel a year
> to drive the typical 15,000 miles — even less if the VW XL1 were driven on
> electric along during the day’s commute.
>
> While there are no plans to put XL1 into production, VW is nonetheless
> intent on utilizing some of its weight and fuel-saving breakthroughs.  The
> maker claims it has come up with ways to sharply reduce the cost of
> producing CFRP, which could help the material migrate from the supercar
> segment into more mainstream markets."
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/WHO-KILLED-THE-ELECTRIC-CAR-VW-250mpg-proven-tp3501072p3501072.html
> Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/


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